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“The Norwegian public is not necessarily convinced [they need to take action] … they have not yet been scared into doing something,” said Professor Randers.

“[But] in the elite there is a feeling that something needs to be done in this area … this is doable and it doesn’t cost much,” he said.

from smh

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Written by Admin

November 28, 2006 at 2:56 pm

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  1. Its just madness isn’t it?

    I mean here we are on a planet that is not configured for catastrophic warming.

    In fact its biased for catastrophic cooling.

    Here is a country so far North that the sun dances above them in the midnight sky for some part of the year.

    We are talking about a country that will be severely stressed if not entirely buggered by the next little-ice-age and would be destroyed by a failure on our collective parts to ward off a new full-blown glaciation.

    The last time these guys had a real warm blast they just went from strength to strength.

    They started breeding like rabbits and would bugger off down South to beat up all the guys and rape all the Sheilas.

    They carved out a territory in France, took over Alfreds Kingdom in a single battle and grabbed great chunks of Italy.

    If we get another ice age they’ll be dependent on us for somewhere to live where there isn’t any ice.

    “The Norwegian public is not necessarily convinced [they need to take action] … they have not yet been scared into doing something,”

    I mean we are just so far off the plot aren’t we?

    Do the right thing and go onto realclimate.com or Deltoid and just start abusing people.

    These sites host two lots of unethical creeps who keep this idiocy going. And they deserve all your abuse.

    I’ve done what I can.

    Now its your turn.

    GMB

    November 28, 2006 at 3:30 pm

  2. Compare with: “The public isn’t convinced that free trade is a good idea. But in the elites the feeling is that free trade is a good idea.”

    Stupid elites. What would they know?

    Anyway, Bush has a solution to solution to the Global Warming Problem — slash funding for rearch into it. No pesky scientists telling you inconenenient facts, no more problem.

    TimLambert

    November 28, 2006 at 6:16 pm

  3. so your against free markets now huh tim?

    i’m pretty sure the consuming public thinks free trade is a good idea…

    where was your tv made in the people’s republic of australia ? i don’t think so…

    your analogy is easily shown to be disanalogous…

    no economist ever scared someone into free trade…

    c8to

    November 28, 2006 at 6:30 pm

  4. Lets see some evidence for the possibility of catastrophic global warming Tim.

    You can give me plenty of evidence for the possibility of catastrophic global cooling for sure.

    But none at all for catastrophic global warming.

    This is more then just “passing-strange.”

    “Methinks the fat-man protesteth too much”

    GMB

    November 28, 2006 at 6:47 pm

  5. Tim

    Free trade has historically never been an elitist ideal. In fact the parties representing the common man have been on both sides of that issue.

    Whitlam cut tarrifs 25% across the board or at least he tried. Hawke and Keating were that way inclined. Clinton was too.

    Rent seeking is a problem for both the right and left.

    JC.

    November 28, 2006 at 6:50 pm

  6. Bad example Tim. The issue is a cost utility trade-off, not whether warming exists.

    Mark Hill

    November 28, 2006 at 7:35 pm

  7. There were two interesting bits in that SMH article: the bit where the Norwegian prof Sanders said that people had to be scared into doing something; and the mind numbingly stupid opinion that “if Australia did it first, China might follow”.

    The first is further unfortunate evidence that there is a tendency to exaggeration and overeagerness to blame AGW for every weather anomaly; and the second statement is the type of wet and wistful thinking that could have led to a very different outcome to the cold war.

    entropy

    November 28, 2006 at 11:35 pm

  8. “The Australian public is not necessarily convinced [they need to invade Iraq] … they have not yet been scared into doing something,” said Professor Howard.
    “[But] in the elite there is a feeling that something needs to be done in this area … this is doable and it doesn’t cost much,” he said.

    Oh, the appeal to “common” sense. How useful it is to advance one’s existing agenda!

    FDB

    November 29, 2006 at 4:35 pm

  9. I am constantly amazed how much public support there is in Australia for reducing emissions compared with reducing trade barriers. Compare the two: unilaterally reducing trade barriers makes us, as well as the whole world, unambiguously better off in no later than the medium term. Meanwhile, taking measures to reduce emissions now may or may not make the world better off in the very long term but will almost certainly make Australia worse off. Yet the public repudiates the idea of the former and lauds the latter. The fact that some economics journalists give such mealy-mouthed support to free trade and unqualified support to reducing emissions is a disgrace.

    Rajat Sood

    November 29, 2006 at 6:01 pm

  10. Wlcome to the socialist paradise in the south seas
    Rajat. Pretty despicable hey?

    Nimby writ large, all cloaked up with the words, “I care”. …. as long as it doesn’t affect me attitude.

    JC.

    November 29, 2006 at 6:54 pm

  11. I’m sure Norway is not in the clear, when Randers says “it doesn’t cost much” I am sure he wasnt volunteering to take a wage cut.

    rog

    November 29, 2006 at 7:36 pm

  12. 2 be sure…

    rog

    November 29, 2006 at 7:36 pm

  13. “The public isn’t convinced that free trade is a good idea. But in the elites the feeling is that free trade is a good idea.”

    If somebody seriously offered to cut domestic tariffs between inter-household trade (ie cut taxes) then I am sure the public would happily vote for it. The problem is the elites keep prattling on about cross border trade whilst ignoring domestic trade. Stupid elites.

    terjepetersen

    December 4, 2006 at 1:33 pm


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