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Generational wars

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Bernard Salt lets loose with another distillation of his research into demographic astrology generational differences. The article on the Oz website is open to comments and I thought this particular commenter was the most eloquent:

D Train of Sydney
16 November at 09:24 AM
Why does The Australian keep publishing this guy’s crap?

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Written by Admin

November 16, 2006 at 9:23 am

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  1. Yea, why do they publish this idiot?

    JC.

    November 16, 2006 at 9:45 am

  2. Beautiful! Google Ads runs an ad for ‘RSVP Baby Boomer events’ above this post.

    Jason Soon

    November 16, 2006 at 9:51 am

  3. because he is the Salt of the Earth?

    Bring Back CL's Blog

    November 16, 2006 at 10:02 am

  4. Actually, it makes more sense if you substitute “Scorpio” for “Boomer” and “Aries” for “Gen Y.”

    GeoffH

    November 16, 2006 at 10:06 am

  5. You going Jase?

    By the way how much would you get for an ad like that?

    JC.

    November 16, 2006 at 10:11 am

  6. I think the google adds pay for clicks don’t they?

    Steve Edney

    November 16, 2006 at 10:14 am

  7. No idea actually, c8to hasn’t told me the details of how these work.

    Jason Soon

    November 16, 2006 at 10:18 am

  8. Generation Y is from Mars, boomers are from Venus.

    Generational generalisations are from Uranus.

    Jason Soon

    November 16, 2006 at 10:23 am

  9. The one article of his I found valuable was on the sea change/tree change thing, which raised the issue of having to build infrastructure in communities that are currently small but growing rapidly, and the ultimately self-defeating notion that if many people move to a small community then it won’t be a small community any more. A starting point for further investigation for people who don’t think about these things much.

    Andrew Elder

    November 16, 2006 at 10:28 am

  10. Lets hear it for the parents of the baby boomers who made it all possible by their hard work to rebuild from the ashes of depression and war, then left fat inheritances (or at least a share of a house) to the baby boomers. Of course the boomers didn’t really need it because they had jobs all their lives, but it meant they could afford to spoil their children and grandchildren.

    Rafe Champion

    November 16, 2006 at 11:12 am

  11. yes
    That’s right Rafe.That group is owed a lot. Father in law belongs to that generation. Lost his dad, went to work at 14, sent off to the Mid east then NG. Built a business, now in the sun set of his life.

    Guy didn’t know anything other than hard work.
    They are the Greatest Generation, the name of the book is so appropriate.

    Everything we have is owed to them. What’s incredible about that lot is how they accepted thousands of immigrants to come here after they hard fought a big war against them.

    They also rebuilt Japan in a fashion.

    We then have this idiot howling about people in their 20’s.

    JC.

    November 16, 2006 at 11:25 am

  12. Very funny article. Perhaps it’s a bit subtle for you lot.

    whyisitso

    November 16, 2006 at 11:36 am

  13. oh come now whyisitso, you’re not going to pull the ‘it was all a joke’ defence now are you?
    it was written in a jokey manner but Salt has said it all before in serious format.

    Jason Soon

    November 16, 2006 at 11:40 am

  14. Lighten up as bit Jason. You’ll find life’s a lot more enjoyable if you do.

    whyisitso

    November 16, 2006 at 12:09 pm

  15. A salt and battery?

    Bring Back CL's Blog

    November 16, 2006 at 12:46 pm

  16. Yep, google ads pay for click throughs.

    Good call, Jason. I was going to post a link to this column but couldn’t have put my thoughts more eloquently than the Oz commenter.

    The other question – why does KPMG have this guy as a partner?

    Mark Bahnisch

    November 16, 2006 at 2:59 pm

  17. “why does KPMG have this guy as a partner? ”

    well that really rubs the Salt into the wounds, Mark!

    Jason Soon

    November 16, 2006 at 3:00 pm

  18. Rafe, your comment illustrates what’s wrong with generational stereotyping.

    I’m “Gen X” but my parents aren’t baby boomers but older – part of the so-called “silent generation” or whatever the hell people like Salt call it.

    90% of stuff you read about generations is rubbish.

    Social cleavages work differently – there are differences between generations but they’re rarely the most important ones. There are other social indicators which usually cut across age groups.

    Mark Bahnisch

    November 16, 2006 at 3:02 pm

  19. Like Mark, I’m Gen X (I think – born 1972 – the figures can get very rubbery at the edges), and both my parents are now dead. And they weren’t boomers, although I’m not sure you could call them the ‘War Generation’, either. Both had clear memories of WWII, and my father had a brief stint in the Royal Navy.

    skepticlawyer

    November 16, 2006 at 3:32 pm

  20. It appears to be just another attempt to create a stoush where there isn’t one.

    I’m Gen X too, and I hate every other generation from a to z (barring x). No, I just think this stuff is rubbish. There is such a variety of people, why do we need to be stuffed into pigeonholes. I, for one, don’t fit, and it’s not just because of the block of chocolate I had for lunch.

    Skepti’s holding her age very well, I must say.

    Darlene

    November 16, 2006 at 4:26 pm

  21. I presume as someone born in 1975 I count as Gen X too?

    Jason Soon

    November 16, 2006 at 4:27 pm

  22. I think so Jason, but I’ve been described as Gen Y as well, which I thought applied to my nephew who’s living with us (he’s 17).

    Darlene is right, unless someone can back it up with real research, this sort of thing doesn’t get us very far.

    *Compliments from Darlene gratefully received*

    skepticlawyer

    November 16, 2006 at 4:38 pm

  23. Salt’s comments reasonably describe reality – and economic conditions. If you are a new graduate today you can really have a fat time, be well paid, and enjoy an amazing quality of life. Am I jeolous ? Yes. I graduated in 1992 on the day unemployment hit its postwar high. Do I wish Gen Y ill – no ! Everyone has to pay their dues – their time just hasn’t come around yet. And who would be conscripted if the Martians invaded tomorrow………Gen Y !

    jimmythespiv

    November 17, 2006 at 12:26 pm

  24. Well, 1972 was the year when the number of births in Australia peaked, so I guess skepti really is still a boomer. Just like myself, who was born in 1953.

    It goes to show what a meaningless term “baby boomer” is.

    derrida derider

    November 17, 2006 at 4:07 pm


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